( Credit to @creativemechanic for Reference:
https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/284950-2-samuel-131-14-amnons-fellowship-with-jonadab-should-be-a-warning-for-us-christians-about-being-careful-when-it-comes-to-who-is-involved-in-christian-fellowship/#comment-3577445
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According to the aforementioned posting, there is a possibility that
Absalom was in collusion with Jonodab in order to make Absalom King
via a coup d’état.
2 Samuel 13:1-33
New American Standard Bible 1995
13 Now it was after
this that Absalom the son of David had a beautiful sister whose name
was Tamar, and Amnon the son of David loved her. 2 Amnon was so
frustrated because of his sister Tamar that he made himself ill, for
she was a virgin, and it seemed [a]hard to Amnon to do anything to
her. 3 But Amnon had a friend whose name was Jonadab, the son of
[b]Shimeah, David’s brother; and Jonadab was a very shrewd man. 4 He
said to him, “O son of the king, why are you so depressed morning
after morning? Will you not tell me?” Then Amnon said to him, “I am in
love with Tamar, the sister of my brother Absalom.” 5 Jonadab then
said to him, “Lie down on your bed and pretend to be ill; when your
father comes to see you, say to him, ‘Please let my sister Tamar come
and give me some food to eat, and let her prepare the food in my
sight, that I may see it and eat from her hand.’” ……..more
scripture….more scripture…..8 So Tamar went to her brother Amnon’s
house, and he was lying down. And she took dough, kneaded it, made
cakes in his sight, and baked the cakes. 9 She took the pan and
[c]dished them out before him, but he refused to eat. And Amnon said,
“Have everyone go out from me.” So everyone went out from him. 10 Then
Amnon said to Tamar, “Bring the food into the [d]bedroom, that I may
eat from your hand.” So Tamar took the cakes which she had made and
brought them into the bedroom to her brother Amnon. 11 When she
brought them to him to eat, he took hold of her and said to her,
“Come, lie with me, my sister.” 12 But she answered him, “No, my
brother, do not violate me, for such a thing is not done in Israel; do
not do this disgraceful thing! 13 As for me, where could I [e]get rid
of my reproach? And as for you, you will be like one of the [f]fools
in Israel. Now therefore, please speak to the king, for he will not
withhold me from you.” 14 However, he would not listen to [g]her;
since he was stronger than she, he violated her and lay with
her……more scripture….more scripture….16 But she said to him,
“No, because this wrong in sending me away is greater than the other
that you have done to me!” Yet he would not listen to her. 17 Then he
called his young man who attended him and said, “Now throw this woman
out of my presence, and lock the door behind her.” 18 Now she had on a
[h]long-sleeved garment; for in this manner the virgin daughters of
the king dressed themselves in robes. Then his attendant took her out
and locked the door behind her. 19 Tamar put [i]ashes on her head and
tore her [j]long-sleeved garment which was on her; and she put her
hand on her head and went away, crying aloud as she went.
20 Then Absalom her brother said to her, “Has Amnon your brother been with you? But now keep silent, my sister, he is your
brother; do not take this matter to heart.” So Tamar remained and was
desolate in her brother Absalom’s house. 21 Now when King David heard
of all these matters, he was very angry. 22 But Absalom did not speak
to Amnon either good or bad; for Absalom hated Amnon because he had
violated his sister Tamar.
……………………more scripture…….more scripture………….. 28 Absalom commanded his servants, saying,
“See now, when Amnon’s heart is merry with wine, and when I say to
you, ‘Strike Amnon,’ then put him to death. Do not fear; have not I
myself commanded you? Be courageous and be [m]valiant.” 29 The
servants of Absalom did to Amnon just as Absalom had commanded. Then
all the king’s sons arose and each mounted his mule and fled.
30 Now it was while they were on the way that the report came to David, saying, “Absalom has struck down all the king’s sons,
and not one of them is left.” …..more scripture……
……32 Jonadab, the son of Shimeah, David’s brother, [n]responded, “Do not let my lord [o]suppose they have put to death
all the young men, the king’s sons, for Amnon alone is dead; because
by the [p]intent of Absalom this has been determined since the day
that he violated his sister Tamar. 33 Now therefore, do not let my
lord the king take the report to [q]heart, namely, ‘all the king’s
sons are dead,’ for only Amnon is dead.”
Based on (2 Samuel 13:1-33 bible passage, there is a possibility that
Absalom was in collusion with Jonodab in order to make Absalom King
via a coup d’état.
Let’s analyze some relevant scripture verses:
- Strangely, Jonadab’s advice Stops short of suggesting or telling Amnon that he should have concensual sex or even rape Tamar.
(2 Samuel 13:5) Jonadab then said to him, “Lie down on your bed and
pretend to be ill; when your father comes to see you, say to him,
‘Please let my sister Tamar come and give me some food to eat, and let
her prepare the food in my sight, that I may see it and eat from her
hand.’”
- Later on, Absalom initiates a conversation with Tamar by asking her in suggestive manner if Amnon had some sort of sexual relation with her regardless of whether it was concensual sex or even rape (how
would he have known to just initiate the conversation with such a question? )
(2 Samuel 13:20) Then Absalom her brother said to her, “Has Amnon your
brother been with you? But now keep silent, my sister, he is your
brother; do not take this matter to heart.” So Tamar remained and was
desolate in her brother Absalom’s house.
- After Absalom orchestrated the murder to Amnon, ( 2 Samuel 13:30-33) gives an account of how it was initially mistakenly reported that Absalom killed off all his brothers, but then Jonadab responds by telling King David that Only Amnon was killed, and furthermore, specified the reason why Absalom killed his brother Amnon was because Amnon raped Tamar: ( how would Jonadab have known that Absalom Only killed Amnon ( unless Jonadab was present when the killing took place) and how would Jonadab have known the reasons for Absalom’s actions? )
( 2 Samuel 13:30-33) Now it was while they were on the way that the
report came to David, saying, “Absalom has struck down all the king’s
sons, and not one of them is left.” …..more scripture……
……32 Jonadab, the son of Shimeah, David’s brother, [n]responded,
“Do not let my lord [o]suppose they have put to death all the young
men, the king’s sons, for Amnon alone is dead; because by the
[p]intent of Absalom this has been determined since the day that he
violated his sister Tamar. 33 Now therefore, do not let my lord the
king take the report to [q]heart, namely, ‘all the king’s sons are
dead,’ for only Amnon is dead.”
Does the aforementioned analysis sound plausible? Please provide your feedback.
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