Swiss Reformed
Response
Walter J.
Hollenweger
This is an
interesting
faith and
practice”
issue of racism or
political
theologians. of
ongoing
revelation for
in
general
terms,
This is
probably
the most
and fruitful
report.
I am astonished at the broad consensus between Pentecostal and Reformed
The consensus includes the
“implications
(#9).
As
long
as this is expressed
it is easy to agree. But what if it becomes
concrete,
for instance on the
decisions?
tricky
issue within Reformed churches and within Pentecostalism. It
of an ecumenism
aporia
rather than on a common witness.
is also a
good example
So Much
Agreement!
Nicene-Constantinopolitian Pentecostal
theologizing!)
that centers on a common
(#15, something
new in in
accepting
the controversial
for instance in our
dealings sideration Christ’s clear
warnings?
The
dialogue partners
also
agreed
on their common basis in the
Creed
obviously
filioque.
Reformed and Pentecostals consider Jesus Christ to be the criterion for the work of the
Holy Spirit.
with
power
and
money, taking
into con-
But what does that
mean,
Here
again,
it seems to me that
both traditions are united in a common
aporia.
On the other hand it was stated that “the work of the
Spirit
is
broader than we think”
(#20).
accomplish
All
depends
here on the
phrase,
the salvation of
to receive the
proclaimed
“broader than we think.” What does it mean? Does it mean that the Holy Spirit
is also at work outside the realm of the
preached
Word of God,
as David du Plessis said
long ago?
There are some hints in this direction: “More
recently,
some Pentecostals have
begun
to reflect on the role of the
Spirit
in creation and culture to reveal God and to
God’s
just
and
holy will,
but not to the extent of believ- ing
that there is
saving grace
outside the
ministry
of the
Gospel (#21 1 and
73).
What does that mean for instance
regarding
the Jews? Are
they
lost because
they
do not believe in Jesus Christ?
However,
“both traditions
acknowledge
among
all
peoples, including peoples
of other faiths,
preparing
Word”
(#23).
That
is,
of
course,
orthodox
the
Holy Spirit
is a work
them
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Reformed brand. Huldreich
say
that nonchristians
honestly
texts
the- When a Pentecostal
theology
of the Calvinistic
brand,
but not of the
Zwinglian
Zwingli expected
to meet
“pious pagans”
in heav- en, although they
never heard the
gospel.
Can Pentecostals
to
hell,
given
such clear and
challenging as Matthew 25:31-46? This issue is also discussed in Reformed ology,
but
usually only
on the theoretical level.
minister
gets
a Muslim son-in-law the tone of the dis-
change!
and Pentecostals
was clear for both sides that the
opposite party
had no chance of sal- vation and was
surely going
to hell. And now? There is
hardly
a
or Reformed
cussion and the
arguments polemics
between Catholics
It is clear that
our judgment
Or,
one
may
remember the
fifty years ago.
Then it
theologian
who would dare to make
on such matters does not convictions but
also,
and
perhaps
with the statement that the
gap
between
respected
Catholic or Pentecostal such statements.
only depend
on our
theological even more so, on our
experience.
I have some difficulties the Bible and the
contemporary Pentecostals,
instance
sons,
does not advocate
only spiritually (Letter
to
Philemon)?
is not historical but
spiritual (#27). when
Paul,
for understandable historical
the
emancipation
when John
depicts
Christ so
differently
using
exclusive and anti-Semitic
Furthermore,
world,
which is
emphasized among
Is it not
both,
for
and cultural rea-
of slaves in concreto but
Or is it not a historical
problem
from the other
evangelists, language,
thus
preparing
the
ground
–
sharply
make differentiate
‘
Reformed
theology.
Pentecostalism.
in the
report,
however.
Moreover,
for a
long
tradition of anti-Semitism in
Christianity?
I would
really
like to know what Pentecostals of the Reformed statement that “we cannot
‘supernatural gifts’
from ‘natural
gifts’ (#32).
This is
straightforward
But it is also a
position
I did not find a Pentecostal
found within reaction to this statement
of the in principle between the
consensus mean?
the
chapter
on “The Church as the
Community Spirit’s
Gifts” shows
very
little
disagreement
dialogue partners.
What does this broad
theological
Does it mean that the
really
controversial issues were left out? I do not believe this. Does it mean that Pentecostals
against joining
WARC,
since this would not strain their
ecclesiology
so much as, for
instance, membership option
that Pentecostals
might
take into consideration
are
not,
in
principle,
in the WCC?
Perhaps
that is an
sometime,
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given
Pentecostal weak and inefficient.
the fact that their inner-Pentecostal alliances
Conference and
regional
Omissions
for
instance,
played
such an
important
conferences)
(World are
extremely
and
ecclesiology
(which dialogue),
that the dif-
the outcome ferences
I am also astonished at the
things
that were omitted. There
was,
no discussion on
baptism
role in the Vatican/Pentecostal
on
ministry,
or on the eucharist. If these
topics
had been
discussed,
might
have been the
astonishing discovery
among
the different Pentecostal traditions are far
greater than those between Reformed and Pentecostal
have been an
interesting discovery.
the Reformed
theology.
That would
That too is
signifi-
Reformed
population
ecclesiology
and the
ecclesiology However,
this is
again Pentecostal
theologians
majority
nificant
example
As far as I know, the
report
is not discussed in the heartland of
tradition,
namely,
in Switzerland.
cant. In Switzerland and in other
European
countries with a sizeable
the battle
rages
between a socalled free-church
of so-called established churches.
and
within
WARC,
for the
great
a sig-
Church in
Italy.
At the
not a discussion between Reformed
but a discussion
of the member churches of WARC are free
churches;
of this is the Waldensian
other
end,
certain Pentecostal churches in
Europe
receive state subsi- dies,
for instance the Finnish Pentecostal
college.
The Finnish
government trained Pentecostal
Church for their
theological is
obviously
interested in a well-
of the Pentecostal
College
in
clergy.
When I discussed this with Dr. Veli-Matti Karkkainen when he was
principal
Finland
pointing
out that none of the
early apostles
was
paid by
the
“True,
but
they
also did not
pay
such massive taxes as we do!” And what is
more,
the Finnish
government
state,
he answered:
only
one
thinking
about
subsidizing
is not the
Pentecostal institutions.
So,
what is the issue at stake? It seems to me that most of the dif- ferences between Reformed and Pentecostal
tural, political,
or
psychological make the discussion
theologians nature. Of
course,
are of a cul- that does not
theological
nature is
theological.
easier. But it would
perhaps
be
helpful
to real- ize that not all that we consider to be of a fundamental
To differentiate between cultural and
theologi-
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cal issues
might
be a promising
topic
for further discussion.
Implications for
Witness
An
interesting the
understanding
therefore,
for
The
question
for us
is,
to
speak
in and
statement is made in
paragraph
52. It is said “that
of the
Spirit’s gifts
is broader than the classic list of spiritual
gifts
in 1 Corinthians 12:8-10.” That is a matter of
course, since there are other lists of
spiritual gifts
in the New Testament, instance in Romans 12:3-8. Since these lists are not identical, it seems that
they
are not exhaustive but
exemplary.
What new
gifts
do we discover to meet
contemporary needs
(see
the statement about how “God continues
through
the
church,” #35),
for instance in the realm of
science,
world trade and finance, where both Pentecostals
through
the activities of their members? For Pentecostals,
is even more
important
members in the Third World are on the
receiving
end of our collec-
involved this
question
tive
misdoings.
It
might
not be so
important other
theological
It will
surely
and Reformed are
deeply
because
the
majority
of their
to
agree
on the “initial
sign”
or
any
issues? Europeans so-called
detail. When
Bangladesh, Hamburg,
Los
Angeles, or the Pacific Islands are in
danger
of
being
flooded because of
glob- al
warming,
when millions are
dying
of
hunger
because of our trade system,
will it matter whether or not we
agree
on these
theological
matter, however,
can
agree
on a convention
even if that costs a lot of
money.
At
any rate, doing nothing against
our human-made
Kyoto Protocol),
more
costly.
I am
personally
whether Americans and reducing
carbon dioxide
(the
problems
will be much
in the
high Alps (again
the
the moun-
will
involved in this issue because I live in the mid- dle of the
Alps.
The
receding perma-frost
result of the
change
of the
global climate)
will destabilize
tains. The frozen water that has so far acted as a kind of cement in these rocks will melt and rocks and earth and whole mountains come down
destroying villages, roads,
and
railway
lines and
killing
Do we not have a responsibility
wonderful creation? And what has
“ongoing
revelation”
many people.
issue?
to take care of God’s
to
say
to this
What I feel is
badly missing
in the
report
are the
implications
of
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commitment
of
Christians,
power
are
bringing
necessary
our common
theology
for our witness in a world that needs the clear
both Pentecostal and Reformed. We live among
men and women who in their race for
prestige, money
and
about a massive
ecological,
collapse.
If ever the concerted
spiritual
forces of Christians
to
bring
to a halt such
madness,
it is
today.
Conservative
Congregational
Christian
David F. Wells
The
dialogue
that
produced
financial and social
have been
Response
“Word and
Spirit,
Church and
Honest
theological
dis-
and distrust
World” were undertaken in a
worthy
cause.
agreements may always remain,
but
misunderstandings
should not. To the extent to which this document clears
away
these
mutual
trust,
offers new
insights,
it has served an honorable cause and we are
misunderstandings, promotes encourages cooperation,
all in debt to those who undertook
This document
tional Pentecostal
group” therefore a
self-appointed
and
this task.
that there “is no interna-
all Pentecostals and
to do this.
of the WARC.
This is a worldwide
candidly acknowledges
(#6)
that
represents
ad hoc
group
was established
On the other side of the table were
the
representatives
body
that does
represent
some Reformed bodies but,
it should be
said,
it is also
quite unrepresentative
define themselves
theologically
a little
problematic.
God, needing
to be
illumined,
of
many
who as Reformed but who are found in
as to who is
among
the
conversation
partners
for this
ible in this
document,
denominations not in that
body.
The
question, therefore,
actually being represented by
those who were in these discussions is
For
example,
the Barthian affirmation that “it is only by
the
Holy Spirit
that the
Scriptures
become the
living
Word of God for the Church”
(#33) speaks only
for the Barthians
Reformed. For most of the
others,
the Bible is
already
the Word of
for
sure,
but still the Word of God. Perhaps
the choice of these
particular
dialogue
was the best that could be done in the circumstances but the results will, for this reason, have their limitations.
three issues on which I believe further
thought
is
necessary.
First,
the links between Christ and the
Spirit
are well
nigh
invis-
whereas in the New Testament
Let me now raise
48
they
are
5
inescapably
and the
disposition gifts
for God’s
people. siderably. Important,
obvious. The Old Testament contains about one hundred references to the
Holy Spirit
in which he is seen to be at work in cre- ation,
the control of nature and
history,
the. revelation of God’s will
to
obey it,
and the
giving
of creative skills and
In the New Testament the focus narrows con-
of
course,
1:3-13, 2:18, 3:14-9, 4:4:6).
and
Spirit
are even coordinated
impossible
anchored to and
expressive
Reformation of justification
there is now
equivocation
and
Pentecostals,
are the triadic
passages
in which
coordi-
in such
expressions
as This means that it is
if it is not
We know
why
we
affirmations,
why
did the
Father, Son,
and
Holy Spirit
are seen to be joined in a common work of
grace (e.g.
John. 14:16 –
16:14;
1 Cor.
12:4-6;
2 Cor.
13:14; Eph.
New links between the Son and the Spirit,
however,
are also
forged,
for their work is
explicitly nated,
the
Spirit applying
what the Son achieved on the Cross. Son
linguistically
“Spirit
of Christ” and
“Spirit
of His Son.”
to consider the work of the
Spirit adequately
of the work of the Son.
Yet,
in this docu- ment one searches in vain for the historic affirmations from the
sola
gratia, sola fidei.
do not hear a ringing affirmation of in solo Christo. The reason is that
about how to view this
(#72).
If the Reformed would not utter the historic
Pentecostals not
help
them? And
why
do we not hear in this docu- ment
any
discussion about what in the
past
has divided the Reformed
such as the doctrines of
depravity
Second,
I believe the
way
in which the document
needs further consideration. The
language
incidental almost to what is
being
but it still stands out. The
language
of Father and Son is used but then the document becomes
some circumlocutions: “We
agree
that God has revealed God’s self’ (#19), “signs
that God is with God’s
people” (#51).
In both
cases,
the English language
calls for a
pronoun
self’ and “God is with his
people”.
But here is the rub. In these
cases, is God to be called he or she or some
hybrid
like s/he? The authors
small
part
of the
statement, attempted throughout,
will not
say.
and election?
speaks
of God used of God is
only
a
coy
and executes
as in “God has revealed him-
Mary Daly’s apho-
The best construction that can be
put
on this is that
they
are afraid to offend women since
they perhaps
remember
rism that if “God is male, then male is God.” And the
growing equal- ity
between men and women is elsewhere seen in the statement as one
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fact the Bible does thousands work of the
Spirit’s
reconciliation.
of the
signs
of the
Spirit’s
work
today,
so that to call God “he,” as in
of times, would seem to
put
at
peril
this
language of
reconciling tieth
century? document
then
deliberately
certainly
But
why,
one
wonders,
would the
to the work
does,
and
and
are all simi- that there are
simply
some
Holy Spirit
have
inspired
the
language
used of God in the Bible if that
would later turn out to be such an
impediment
men and women that he wanted to do in the late twen-
Let us be frank. Would it not have been better for this
to
say
that the Bible embarrasses us at this
point today rather than to
profess great
love for
it,
as this document
not follow it in its
ways
of
speaking
of God?
How to
speak
about God is no small matter. The absence of
any female element in God is almost
unique among
world
religions
was in the biblical
period.
It is true that several
passages liken God to a mother or other female
images (Deut. 32:11;
Isa. 31:5, 42:14, 45:10, 49:15, 66:3;
Matt.
23:37).
These instances
not
metaphors, suggesting
but the resemblance is not even transferred to God as would be the case with the use of a metaphor. Nowhere is God ever
spoken
of as
mother, though
he is often
spoken
of as father, and no female
pronouns
are ever used of God but thousands of masculine
are used. It has become rather clear that when
theologians begin
to see God as
female,
in part or in whole, then the
images
of the
les, however, elements in
parallel,
pronouns
birth
canal,
God
breastfeeding
the
universe,
and the like
quickly
come to define the
ways
in which Christian faith is, as it were, con-
When that
happens,
we are but one
step away
from the
pan-
over
against
which the Bible delivered its
many
ceived. theistic
paganism pronouncements.
unambiguous,
concerns,
would it not
in a
The issue
really
is not how the Bible
speaks
of
God,
which is
but what we are to make of it. Rather than circum- venting
its
language
to accommodate women’s
be wiser to
explain
that God has revealed himself as
personal way
that is
uniquely opposed
to paganism because his self-revelation is
uniquely
true,
and that since in heaven there will be neither
giving
nor
taking
in
marriage,
the masculine
pronoun
means
something
a lit-
tle different in reference to God than it does in human life?
The third issue has to do with Christ and culture. In
my judgment the section “The Church is in the World but not of it”
(#59-62) far the weakest
part
of the document. The interface
is
by between Christ
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about which the Reformed Pentecostals
acknowledge
language,
is
something
always analyzing
and culture, to use the familiar Niebuhrian
have
always
had a lot to
say. By contrast,
that when issues of human need
arise,
their instinct is to address that need
directly,
“without
the
systemic
issues that
produce
or
aggravate
the
pastoral
issue
being
(#62).
There
are, however,
addressed”
standing
on both sides here.
Reformed
some ironies in self-under-
grace,”
thought
has
always
made much of “common that
grace by
which God restrains evil in
society
and enables unbe-
lievers to
employ
their
God-given
sition
expresses
tion of
apartheid, mass destruction”
gifts
for the wider human
good,
thus here this
to see
This
dispo-
Liberalism
in
asserting
that
although
after Barth this
language
seemed
infelicitous;
kind of conviction is
placed
under the work of the
Holy Spirit (#20). This belief has
typically given
Reformed thinkers a disposition all truth as God’s
truth,
no matter what its
source,
and
that,
in
turn, has sometimes made it hard for them to see worldliness.
itself in a
startling way
here when the Reformed adopt
the old line of classical Protestant
“the
growing
concern for the
equality
of men and
women,
the aboli-
and the
struggle
for the abolition of
weapons
(#32)
are all “miracles.” Miracles?
miracles have been
thought
to involve the
suspension
nature as God in his
power
reveals himself and his
purposes ple.
But here what we have are “natural” miracles achieved through politics,
miracles that
require
no
suspension
nature. If these
really
are
miracles, quasi-pantheistic
blurred.
Furthermore,
of
Traditionally,
of the laws of
to
peo-
mostly
of the laws of they
have to be
predicated
on a
view of the relation between God and human life. The result is that the line between Christ and culture is
significantly
when the Reformed in this document about
corruption they
think
narrowly
in
society” (#61)
“social
systems” (#62)
“eco-
think in terms of social
structures,
destruction”
(#93),
and “structur-
“oppressive
situations
nomic
exploitation,
and
ecological al transformation of
society” of social ethics.
Evil,
of
course, is systemic, much more than
organizations
(#93). They
think
only
in the
language
but the social fabric is made
up
of
Culture,
and bureaucratic structures.
in
fact,
is the
public
environment in which we live and
which,
in the
by
the
omnipresence
dominance of cities, their
linkage by systems
of
manufacturing
West at
least,
is dominated
of
bureaucracy,
the that
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8
capitalism
has
spawned,
the
whiz-bang confetti of countless radios and televisions,
ernment. It is the
daily experience to see life in certain
ways.
of
technology,
the audible
and
ever-expanding gov- of these realities that inclines us
It inclines us to sever our
public experi- ence from what is private, and to think that in public we are all
expe- riencing
the same facts and events, but in our
private sphere
we
legit- imately
understand these in accordance with our own
private
values that
may
well differ from those of
many
other
people.
God does not fit well into this
public sphere,
whether we are
thinking
of it in terms
of its
processes
of modernization gy,
television,
and
government) West, typically postmodern
should be
grappling
(urbanization, capitalism,
technolo- or its
attitudes,
which
are,
in the
dies and
as the intellectual soul of the Western world,
which had come from the
Enlightenment experiment, is followed
by
banal nihilism. This is the
reality
with which
theology
and not
simply
with the narrow and selective social issues evident in this document,
of a
political ideology
as a social ethic.
Toward the end the Pentecostals
others
speak
faith and demonic
powers. row an
understanding?
all of which are as much
part
speak
of their belief in worldli-
worldliness
is that
sys-
given
to
every society’s
truth and his Christ. It embraces,
ness
(#93), though they
do not
speak
with one mind. Some think in terms of the moral confrontation between Christian faith and
society,
in terms of the
power
confrontation between Christian
May
I suggest that
this,
as well, is too nar-
In the New
Testament,
tem of values, those
ways
of
looking
at life, which have the fallen sin- ner at the center and which
relegate
God to the
periphery.
rative sense in which it speaks of cosmos is the collective
expression
refusal to bow before God and receive his
The
pejo-
as Rudolf Bultmann
put it,
“the
sphere
of all men’s
thinking, planning
and
desiring,
in their cares and
their
pride
and
arrogance.”
It is
wishes,
their
pleasures
and
pursuits, everything
seem
strange.
This
understanding
in a society that makes sin look normal and
righteousness
how I described our
contemporary understanding
it works.
of “the world” runs
very
close to
of culture and how
need to broaden
their
understanding New Testament dangerous
In this document, then, the Pentecostals
of the biblical
language
of “the world,” because in the
as
being
so
profound
a reality that love of the world excludes the love of God,
it is
pictured
and
potentially
52
9
In the
apostolic
and falsehood,
“world” is no small or
peripheral precisely
will
help
in
constructing contemporary
culture.
and those who love the world are the enemies of God
(
John
2:15).
discussion of the “world” one encounters all of the great
choices in
life,
such as those between
light
and
darkness,
truth
freedom and
bondage,
Reformed
participants cultural situations are drawn most
naturally tion,
as the Reformed
and life and death. The matter and
understanding
it more a framework for
thinking
about
There are
many
culture”
posi- are,
need to
develop ways
of
And are the Lutherans
At the same
time,
there is a necessary “otherworldliness” that the
need to make more
explicit.
in
which,
as Niebuhr himself
argued,
those who
to the “Christ
transforming
in this document
asserting
a “Christ
against
culture”
position.
not also correct in
thinking,
at least with
respect
to the
gospel,
that “Christ is above culture,” for
nothing
in culture ever
actually
eases us
of God? The
kingdoms
Kingdom
of God are different
spiritual
realities. The
only way
we are “delivered from the dominion of darkness” and transferred
into the
Kingdom
of this world and the
“to the (Col 1 : 13) is by
the
supernatural,
Kingdom
of his beloved Son” regenerative
Christ and to this we contribute need to be redeemed.
work of the
Holy Spirit,
based on the finished work of
to be
sharpened, its
insights.
Reformed understands
nothing
but the sin from which we
needs
for some of
such as
testimonies but the
(!),
but
everyone too. Even more
signif-
themes of the
centrality in
evangelism
Seeing
these
multiple
relations of Christ to cul- ture would make this a far more felicitous document.
While I have had to focus on where I think the document
I also wish to
express my appreciation
Some of these are almost
marginal observations, the fact that Pentecostals like to
give personal
like to write creeds and confessions
that the
margins
are
important,
icant than
this, however,
are the
great
and
compelling
of God’s
Word,
the
necessity
of the
Holy Spirit’s ministry
life,
and the role and function of the church to which this document calls attention that will,
hopefully,
debate and cause the church of Christ to become more
and in Christian
invigorate
faithful in the
years
ahead.
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